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Crash Landing

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kathleeen
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John J. Copley DFM. Alex Donaldson
Location of story:听
Denmark, Jutland
Background to story:听
Royal Air Force
Article ID:听
A8412680
Contributed on:听
10 January 2006

7 Squdron W7441 seven members of crew with Srerling aircraft.

CRASH LANDING, MISSING BELIEVED DEAD (part two John James Copley DFM)

29th September 1941 at 18.50 Stirling Mk.I serial number W7441 coded MG-Y , MG indicating squadron 7 of the Royal Air force, Y radio code, took off from Oakington air base England. The object bombing Stretten near the Oder river to the east of Berlin. Since the aircraft was meant to lead the attack, it was loaded with flares and fire bombs. A total of 18 SBCs. These were to be dropped over the target so that the other aircraft would be able to aim their bombs as the fires broke out.
The outward journey over the North Sea and Denmark went according to plan. When W7441 reached the east coast of Jutland it was attacked by a messerschmidt Bf 110 night-fighter. The gunners were able to avert the attack, then a moment later, W7441 was again attacked by the Bf 110.( The Bf 110 were from 3/1/NJG 1(3. Staffel of the first group in Nachtjagdgeschwader 1)
The attack was carried out by Lieutenant Schmitz, high from the right side he set the Sterling鈥檚 right wing ablaze. The aircraft W7441 crashed in Lillebaelt South oif Brandso at 22.47.
It was Lieutenant Schmitz third confirmed kill.( written by Soren Flensted Billund. extracts only )

Interrogation Report of Sergeant John J. Copley ( V. G Nielson police constable L. H .Rasch police sergeant) following capture at Trappendal in Hejls.
REPORT Tuesday 30.9.1941. After giving name rank number, date of birth, etc. he explained that he had been on board an aircraft- four engine bomber- with 6 other airmen, refusing to give precise departure details. They had flown across north Germany. Following orders to drop bombs over Stettin. While they were on their way they were attacked by German aircraft presumably from Heligoland or Sild. They engaged combat and the person questioned said shot down German aircraft. They discovered that their aircraft was on fire.
The fire spread quickly and orders were given to bale out. This person does not believe that the rest of the crew escaped.
According to Copley the aircraft exploded and crashed near to the coast. He was shown a map, and points out a location between Anslet and Brandso or Branso and funen without venturing the precise location of aircraft.
He had landed safely in his parachute which he said he had left in a small forest, whereupon he headed North on foot. During the landing he had hurt his left knee which was very painful. Approximately 500 metres away from forest he hid his safety jacket in an hedge after which he continued walking until later that night came to an outbuilding where he slept for a couple of hours in a straw stack. He then proceeded to the farm from where the police picked him up. Copley knowing he could not go on for much longer owing to injured left leg.
A reconstruction was then conducted with him and in the place he had previously mentioned his safety jacket was found. He then pointed out the forest where his parachute supposedly was, but since he had great difficulty walking, and the forest was inaccessible by car, he could not point out precise location. Constable Hubsmann, Christiansfeld, promised to search for the parachute with his police dog. Furthermore, hubsmann reported that the police at Haderslev had caught two airmen from the same aircraft, information that pleased the English man very much.
The person in question was then taken to Dr Dolmer in Hejls who treated his injured knee. The person was then taken to the criminal investigation office, where he was handed over to Hauptmann Knock and Hauptmann Mahler. ( extracts only)

Story from crew member Sergeant Alec Donaldson (Sep 1970).
W7441 were leading bomber Force to it鈥檚 target at Strettin, load consisted of Incendiaries and flares. Task to light up the target for the main force. This was just prior to the introduction of the Pathfinder Force.
We left Oakington, 29th Sep about 7pm, taking Northerly route over north Sea and Denmark to hit Stettin from the Baltic. However while approaching we were attacked by two 110 German night fighters. The first attacked from underneath astern and damaged port wing. The rear gunner, Fulbeck immediately opened fire and reported he had scored hits. It was then a second 110 attacking from starboard, high astern, his shells caused severe damage, setting the Port wing ablaze knocking out the intercom. Fire broke out in the fuselage and the Captain gave orders to bale out, flying about 10.000 ft, but I estimate that by the time we baled out we were flying at 2000ft. I only had time to open my parachute, saw I was over the mouth of a river. The aircraft dived down crashed into the sea just off shore. The wind carried me inland a short distance and I landed in a ploughed field. Landed hurting my back and had difficulty walking. I wondered about for an then took shelter in a farm. I found out this was the home of Hensen family which is about 20 mile South of Kolding. They took me into their home gave me food and then put me in one of their famous feather beds. Lather I learned where I had landed from maps shown to me. Apparently they had intended to get me out of the Country to Sweden, but a search was on for the crew and shortly afterwards two plain clothed police officers arrived and I was handed over.
The Wehrmacht took me to barracks, where I was joined by Captain Cobbold who had been captured earlier. Then a third member arrived, Copley.

Cobbold, Donaldson, Copley were on the night of 30/9 taken to the German airfield near Flensburge where they were given dinner in the officers mess. Here they met Lieutenant Scmitz who had shot them down.
Sergeant David Young Niel Navigator another member of the crew landed near Hejelsminde. He remained missing until Wednesday 1st Oct, when he was arrested as he attempted to cross a bridge. He was handed over to German Wehrmacht in Haderslev. Niel met the other three in POW camp Stalag Luft 3, Sagan South East of Berlin.

Three other members of the crew were never found, believed to have gone down with the Sterling Aircraft W7441.We will remember them.
1109112 Sergeant Edward Donald V. Tovey, 2nd pilot,
1325233 Sergeant Eric James Rogers, Air Gunner ( nose turret gunner)
618116 Sergeant Charles Waghorn Fulbeck Air Gunner (rear gunner)

My mum at home with her 2 year old twins, and 6 months pregnant, received a telegram to inform her that her husband was missing believed dead. Happily soon after she was notified that he had been captured and was in a POW camp. She now knew he was alive but where and for how long. Her third child a boy was born on Pearl Harbour Day Dec7 1941. He did not see his dad until after the war. Contact was made with my dad but very limited.
Part three is about POW camps and some of their experiences.

DIVING INTO PAST, 60 YEARS ON
Follow on story 60 years later about my dad and Alex Donaldson.
During my research I was contacted by Rob Thomas, he was researching information about his uncle Alex Donaldson. Alex Donaldson was in 7 Squadron with my dad, they were friends and worked together and in POW camp for 3 1/2year .

Rob contacted my brother to find out if Dad was still alive, and did we have any information about his Uncle Alex? My brother remembered Alex has being a friend of Dads from the RAF days. Knowing I was trying to piece together dads war history he gave Rob my phone number and since then we have been in regular contact on the internet, and telephone. We met in July 2005, he and his family visited me and we had a great day swapping information and putting it together. Alex had started a project in 1974 to gather details of his account and trace surviving crew members but sadly died 2 years later in his mid 50s.

Rob s interest has focused on the Sterling Aircraft that crashed into the sea in Denmark. He had details left my his Uncle Alex about a man he had met at Farnborough Air Show called Soren Flensted who鈥檚 hobby was researching RAF losses over Denmark. Rob contacted Soren. Soren had lot of information about the Sterling aircraft and what happened to it. He also had a letter that had been written to him by Alex about that fateful night, dated 1970.

Rob went to Denmark with a friend Andy to trace the story. They found a campsite near the area where Sgt Donaldson had landed in his parachute. It turned out that the farm on the campsite was the first building Sgt Donaldson had come to , where he had knocked on the window.
Arrangements had been made to meet the Henson family. Asta, the daughter of Johannes Hensen, who was just 10 years old when Sgt Donaldson stayed the night in 1941. Rob and Andy were given a great welcome. In Sgt Donaldson written account of that night 鈥 there was a young daughter at this house, I later learned her name was Asta Hensen. She got maps out and showed me where I had landed鈥 I had a limited conversation with Asta and then fell to sleep.

Asta took Rob and Andy to her home, where Sgt Donaldson had spent the night in a chicken shed, the shed is still there.
Rob & Andy then took a ride to Germany and visited Stalag Luft 111 near Berlin. The POW camp that dad and Alex were held for 6 month leaving just before the great escape took place.
Returning to Denmark Rob & Andy were contacted by the local diving club, who had located the wreck of the Sterling aircraft. They had salvaged some parts of the aircraft for them to see.
Rob & Andy came back home to Derby, and decided they needed to learn to dive. This they did and in 2005 returned to Denmark with their own diving equipment.

Rob and Andy met with Carlsten Jenson, a founder member of the Middelfart diving Club, and custodian of the Sterling wreckage. Jensen knew exactly where to dive and had even salvaged some pieces of the wreck on previous dives. Rob , Andy, Jenson and other diving colleagues, sailed out to the wreck about two hour trip. They headed down to the depths, the water not too bad, visibility good could see four to five metres in front of them.
Rob was ecstatic, he could not have got any closer to the story, and how pleased his uncle, and my dad would have been. What greeted Rob was hardly recognisable as an aircraft- just a collection of bent and twisted metal. The wreckage strewn across the sea bed over an area about the size of a football pitch. Remembering the aircraft was probably travelling at about 200 miles an hour when it hit the sea.
As custodian of the wreck Jenson has a say over who can dive it, and who can take pieces away. He allowed Rob to remove some objects, because he new about the family connection.
Although the wreckage has spent more than 60 years in salt water, some of the pieces salvaged were in good condition. One of the most interesting to Rob was a tail wheel. Another unusual find was a piece of twisted plastic, which appears to be part of the cockpit window.
Rob & Andy both felt mindful of the three RAF crew that had lost their lives in the aircraft, and the wreck was effectively a war grave. They were conscious not to cause too much disturbance.
鈥 Out of the three, one of the bodies was found on the beach by a local. It is now thought to be that of C.W Fulbeck,the rear gunner. However the front gunner and co-pilot never got out of the sterling before it crashed - so their remains could be buried there鈥. Jenson says that the echo-sounder had picked up something buried deep in the mud, it is thought to be the front end of the Sterling.

Rob on his visit to me in 2005 brought parts of the Sterling aircraft for me to see. He is keeping them in water to stop the oxidising, and intends to clean them up and seal with a mixture of linseed oil and paraffin.
Parts of the Sterling W4771 aircraft are preserved and held in Denmark, they include, oxygen cylinders, machine gun鈥檚 propeller blades,escape hatch and engine cylinders.

The story goes on for Rob and I. He is planning another trip to Denmark and has invited me to go with him. Rob would like to eventually see that a memorial is put in place on the Danish coast near to the crash site, remembering the members of the crew who lost their lives. I agree with him and will assist him with this request.

( I have been given permission to write this story by Rob Thomas and some of it is extracts from what Rob reported to the Derby Evening Telegraph and was printed there.)

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