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Dambisa Moyo, Economist and author

Zambian economist and author Dambisa Moyo believes western nations are heading for second division status unless they undertake radical reform. She talks to Stephen Sackur.

Economics is a form of warfare - it produces winners and losers. Right now the west is losing and the rest, led by China are winning. That, in its crudest form, is the premise of a controversial book written by Zambian economist and author Dambisa Moyo.

She's already savaged western nations for pursuing wrong-headed policies on aid; now she says they're heading for second division status unless they undertake radical reform. HARDtalk's Stephen Sackur asks her if this is an alarm call worth heeding.

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