 
                
                        In Conversation
From Jane Austen, Toni Morrison and Hollie McNish come shared intimacies and difficult conversations, while musical dialogues abound from Beethoven to Ella Fitzgerald.
From chamber music by Beethoven and Isabella Leonarda to the call and response of Jean Daetwlery’s dialogue between alphorn and piccolo, and the jazz greats Dizzy Gillespie and Charlie Parker: we are celebrating conversation this week, and not just in the way musicians are attuned to each other, listening and responding to every change of harmony and rhythm, but also through words exchanged and overheard. 
The poets George Herbert and Margaret Cavendish delight in the dialogue poetic form, pitting man against death; joy against discretion. And in Genesis Abraham doesn’t just commune with God, he challenges Him too.
There are conversations teasing, eavesdropped and ghostly from the pens of Jane Austen, Emily Bronte and Toni Morrison. But it’s the missed intimacies of close friends that Hollie McNish regrets, and the ‘sweet nonsense talking’ that Caleb Femi brings alive. There are gossip mongers plotting in Britten’s Peter Grimes, and a grapevine for Marvin Gaye. 
Writers and composers also communicate across the ages, Max Richter shares a tune with Vivaldi, Mozart is infused with Mambo, and the poet Jean Sprackland has the last word in her response to DH Lawrence.
The readers are Gemma Whelan and Clarke Peters. 
Producer: Katy Hickman
READINGS:
The Art of Conversation, Catherine Blyth
To Women, As Far as I’m Concerned, DH Lawrence
Feelings, Jean Sprackland
Pride and Prejudice, Jane Austen 
Genesis, King James Bible 
A Dialogue-Anthem, George Herbert 
Beloved, Toni Morrison 
Wuthering Heights, Emily Bronte 
On Talking, Kahlil Gibran 
Nests in Elms, Michael Field 
The Club of Queer Trades, GK Chesterton 
Conversations with Friends, Sally Rooney 
Dialogue between joy and discretion, Margaret Cavendish 
Here Too Spring Comes to Us with Open Arms, Caleb Femi 
my friends are scattered, Hollie McNish 
A Time to Talk, Robert Frost
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Music Played
Timings (where shown) are from the start of the programme in hours and minutes
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    ![]() 00:01 00:01Francis PoulencSonata for flute and piano Op. 164, Presto giocoso Performer: Sharon Bezaly. Performer: Ronald Brautigam.- Bezaly & Brautigam: Masterworks for Flute and Piano.
- BIS-SACD-1729.
- Tr3.
 
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    Catherine BlythExtract from The Art of Conversation, How Talking Improves Lives,John Murray,2008, read by Gemma Whelan ![]() 00:04 00:04Ludwig van BeethovenQuintet in E-Flat Major for Piano and Wind Quartet, Op. 16 - 2. Andan Performer: Sir András Schiff. Performer: Heinz Holliger. Performer: Eduard Brunner. Performer: Radovan Vlatković. Performer: Klaus Thunemann. Performer: Klaus Thunemann.- Beethoven: Septet; Quintet for Piano & Wind Quartet.
- Decca Music Group 00028948340040.
- Tr8.
 ![]() 00:08 00:08Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart‘Pa, pa, pa(Papageno)’, Act II, The Magic Flute Performer: Michael Kraus (Baritone), Lotte Leitner (Soprano), Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra, Georg Solti (conductor).- Mozart: Die Zauberflote.
- Decca Music Group 28943321020.
- S2 Tr19.
 DH LawrenceTo Women, As Far as I’m Concerned,from Answering Back: Living poets reply to the poetry of the past, Picador, 2007; read by Clarke Peters ![]() 00:11 00:11Edgar OliveroPa Pa Pa (inspired by the Papageno/Papagena duet from Mozart's The Magic Flute) Performer: Sarah Willis. Ensemble: The Sarahbanda.- Mozart y Mambo - Cuban Dances.
- Alpha 878.
- Tr14.
 Jean SpracklandFeelings, from Answering Back, Picador, 2007; read by Gemma Whelan ![]() 00:13 00:13Ella Fitzgerald & Louis JordanBaby It's Cold Outside - The Greatest Collection.
- Pacific AW8494617.
- Tr11.
 ![]() 00:15 00:15Ed SheeranBad habits arr. for string quartet (Inspired by Bridgerton) Composer: Fred again... Composer: Johnny McDaid. Composer: Music Lab Collective. Music Arranger: Elspeth Mackay. Ensemble: Music Lab Collective.- Music Lab Collective.
- Decca Classics.
- 1.
 Jane AustenExtract from Pride and Prejudice, Everyman’s Library 1906 edition, read by Gemma Whelan ![]() 00:16 00:16Music Lab CollectiveBad Habits (arr. String quartet), inspired by 'Bridgerton' - Decca (UMO) Online release on Music Lab Collective's YouTube channel.
- Tr1.
 ![]() 00:18 00:18Arvo Pärtand I heard a voice Choir: Ars Nova Copenhagen. Conductor: Paul Hillier.- Choral Concert: Ars Nova Copenhagen (…and…).
- Naxos 8.574281.
- Tr14.
 King James BibleExtract from Genesis 18.20-33 read by Clarke Peters George HerbertA Dialogue-Anthem, from The Complete Poetry, Penguin Classic, 2015, read by Gemma Whelan and Clarke Peters ![]() 00:25 00:25George Butterworth6 Songs from A Shropshire Lad', 'Is my team ploughing?' Singer: Ian Bostridge. Performer: Sir Antonio Pappano.- Requiem: The Pity of War.
- Warner Classics 0190295661564.
- Tr6.
 ![]() 00:27 00:27Béla BartókBartok: Concerto for O rchestra, Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta (3rd mvt) Adagio Orchestra: Chicago Symphony Orchestra. Conductor: Fritz Reiner.- Bartok: Concerto for Orchestra/ Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta/ Hungarian Sketches.
- RCA Victor 09026 61504 2.
- Tr8.
 Toni MorrisonExtract from Beloved, Picador, 1987, read by Clarke Peters Emily BronteExtract from Wuthering Heights,1847, read by Gemma Whelan ![]() 00:34 00:34Marvin GayeI Heard It Through The Grapevine - In the Groove.
- Motown.
- 4.
 ![]() 00:36 00:36Benjamin BrittenPeter Grimes, Act 2, "Fool to let it come to this! People!... No I will speak! Singer: Jean Watson. Singer: Peter Pears. Orchestra: Orchestra of the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden. Choir: Chorus of the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden. Conductor: Benjamin Britten. Conductor: Benjamin Britten.- Britten: Peter Grimes Label: DECCA 4145772.
- CD2 Tr5.
 ![]() 00:42 00:42Isabella LeonoraSonata Duodecima for Violin Solo and Basso Continuo in D minor, 1. Adagio Ensemble: Bizzarrie Armoniche.- Donna Baroche.
- Naive.
- 11.
 Kahlil GibranExtract from On Talking, from The Prophet, 1923,read by Clarke Peters ![]() 00:44 00:44Einojuhani RautavaaraConcerto for Birds & Orchestra, Op. 61 "Cantus Arcticus", I. The Bog Orchestra: Helsinki Philharmonic Orchestra. Conductor: Leif Segerstam.- Finland 100: A Century of Finnish Classics.
- Ondine ODE1300-2Q.
- S3 Tr9.
 Michael FieldNests in Elms, from Wild Honey from Various Thyme,Franklin Classics,1907, read by Gemma Whelan GK ChestertonExtract from The Club of Queer Trades,1905, read by Clarke Peters ![]() 00:51 00:51Charlie Parker-Dizzy Gillespie QuintetSalt peanuts - Atmosphere.
- Sinetone AMR 8719497472758.
- Tr4.
 ![]() 00:54 00:54Georges BizetCarmen, Act II, Nous avons en tete une affaire Singer: Teresa Berganza. Orchestra: London Symphony Orchestra. Conductor: Claudio Abbado.- 111 Years Of Deutsche Grammophon The Collector's Edition Vol.2.
- Deutsche Grammophon; 4779142.
- S2 Tr6.
 Sally RooneyConversations with Friends,Faber,2017, read by Gemma Whelan ![]()  Johann Strauss IITritsch-Tratsch Polka, Op 214, for piano Music Arranger: Georges Cziffra. Performer: Yuja Wang.- Fantasia.
- Deutsche Grammophon 00028947900528.
- Tr10.
 Margaret CavendishDialogue between joy and discretion, 1653, read by Gemma Whelan and Clarke Peters ![]() 01:03 01:03Max RichterSpring from The Four Seasons, Recomposed Composer: Antonio Vivaldi. Performer: Daniel Hope. Orchestra: Konzerthaus Kammerorchester Berlin. Conductor: André de Ridder.- Recomposed By Max Richter, Vivaldi - The Four Seasons.
- Deutsche Grammophon 481-0044.
- Tr2.
 Caleb FemiHere Too Spring Comes to Us with Open Arms,from Poor, Penguin Random House 2020 read by Clarke Peters ![]() 01:07 01:07WileyEskimo (Interlude) Performer: Wiley.- Treddin’ On Thin Ice.
- XL Recordings XLDL178 EMI Music.
- Tr4.
 ![]() 01:08 01:08A Tribe Called QuestCan I Kick It? - The Anthology.
- Jive 0523842.
- Tr4.
 Hollie McNishMy friends are scattered across cities now,from Lobster: And Other Things I’m Learning to Love, Fleet, 2024, read by Gemma Whelan ![]() 01:11 01:11Jean DaetwylerDialogue avec la nature for Alphorn, Piccolo and Orchestra Performer: Jozsef Molnar. Performer: Miroslav Kral. Orchestra: Slovenská filharmónia. Conductor: Urs Schneider.- Alphorn Concertos.
- NAXOS 8.555978.
- Tr4.
 Robert FrostA Time to Talk,from Mountain Interval, publ. Henry Holt, 1916, read by Clarke Peters Broadcast- Sun 12 Jan 2025 18:00ÃÛÑ¿´«Ã½ Radio 3
 
 
            