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Gavin Higgins and Elizabeth Watts

Elizabeth Watts sits down with musicians who have their own stories to tell about how neurodivergence affects their personal and professional lives.

Neurodivergence is more prevalent among musicians than the general population. Soprano Elizabeth Watts, who has ADHD, explores how neurodiversity influences the lives and creativity of fellow musicians. She is joined by composer Gavin Higgins, who has Tourette’s Syndrome and OCD, for a candid conversation about how their unique ways of thinking shape their experiences in music and life. Along the way, they share meaningful pieces that reflect their personal journeys.

Both Gavin and Elizabeth share music that, for them, are musical depictions of the constant activity inside their minds. Gavin reflects on a piece that resonated with him in his youth, when playing his instrument became a vital coping mechanism for behaviours he struggled to manage. He also brings a work he finds especially calming due to its repetitive rhythms and static harmony.

Adding a scientific lens to the discussion, Professor Catherine Loveday offers explanations and insights into the relationship between neurodiversity and musical creativity.

A Tandem Production for ÃÛÑ¿´«Ã½ Radio 3

56 minutes

Music Played

  • John McCabe

    Cloudcatcher Fells

    Performer: Black Dyke Band. Conductor: Major Peter Parkes.
    • CHANDOS.
  • Maurice Ravel

    Gaspard de la nuit, M 55 (2nd mvt, 'The gallows')

    Performer: Bertrand Chamayou.
    • ERATO.
  • Thomas Tallis

    Spem in alium

    Ensemble: I Fagiolini. Conductor: Robert Hollingworth.
    • DECCA.
  • Alex Paxton

    Love Kittens

    Conductor: Alex Paxton. Ensemble: Dreammusics Ensemble. Orchestra: Dreammusics Orchestra.
    • Delphian.
  • Kaija Saariaho

    7 Papillons (No 2)

    Performer: Anssi Karttunen.
    • ONDINE.
  • Alessandro Scarlatti

    Si geloso è il mio core from Endimone e Cintia (Yes, my heart is jealous)

    Performer: Mark Bennett. Singer: Elizabeth Watts. Director: Laurence Cummings. Orchestra: The English Concert.
    • HARMONIA MUNDI.
  • Gavin Higgins

    Horn Concerto (2nd mvt, 'Overstorey')

    Performer: Ben Goldscheider. Conductor: Jaime Martín. Orchestra: ÃÛÑ¿´«Ã½ National Orchestra of Wales.
    • LYRITA.
  • John Adams

    Short Ride in a Fast Machine

    Conductor: Kent Nagano. Orchestra: Orchestre symphonique de Montréal.
    • DECCA.
  • µþÂáö°ù°ì

    Hyper-ballad

    Singer: µþÂáö°ù°ì. Ensemble: Brodsky Quartet.
    • One Little Independent Records.

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