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Obstacles for outdoor learning

Laura Miller speaks to journalists Kirsten Campbell and Catriona Stewart about the outdoor learning bill and the obstacles it faces at Holyrood.

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A bill proposed by Conservative MSP Liz Smith (pictured here) which could guarantee all primary 7 pupils a week of outdoor learning has been brought back from the brink.

The Scotsman's education correspondent Catriona Stewart and ÃÛÑ¿´«Ã½â€™s Kirsten Campbell chat with Laura about the bumps in the road it has faced and reminisce about their own school days.

Plus ÃÛÑ¿´«Ã½â€™S environment, energy and rural affairs correspondent Kevin Keane pops by to tell Laura about why she needs to be on the lookout for ticks in her local park.

Scotcast is the ÃÛÑ¿´«Ã½â€™s Scottish news podcast, with Martin Geissler, Laura Miller and Natalie Higgins.

Get in touch: scotcast@bbc.co.uk

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Thu 25 Sep 2025 00:00

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