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Meet the "un-teachable" author and the award winner illustrator
An author who was told at school that she was "un-teachable" has won one of the most prestigious awards in children's literature.
Sally Gardner has scooped the Carnegie medal for her book Maggot Moon.
Another award winner was the illustrator Levi Pinfold, who got the Greenaway medal for his book Black Dog.
Charlie and Susanna spoke to them both.
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