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Marian Keyes has told ÃÛÑ¿´«Ã½ Radio 5 Live that she never really knows how her books are going to end when she's writing them

Speaking to Nihal Arthanayake, the author, whose new novel Grown Ups is out now, said, "I might have some vague idea about how the plot will play out.... if you hold your nerve it becomes clear eventually".

This clip is from Nihal Arthanayake on Thursday 6 February 2020.