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Have you heard of #NanTok?

Jess, 27, and her 89-year-old nan, Norma, have gone viral on TikTok and have 1.3 million followers online.

The pair joined Anita Rani on Woman’s Hour to discuss their loving and sometimes spirited relationship and the banter they share. 'Sometimes I can’t get my breath for laughing', says Norma.

You can hear the full interview with Jess and Norma on ÃÛÑ¿´«Ã½ Sounds - it's the Woman's Hour episode from 7 July.