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All this week Robert McCrum's talking to six great writers about how they will make the transition from Obama to Trump including Richard Ford, Walter Mosley, Ariel Levy, Lionel Shriver and Malcolm Gladwell. First up is double Pulitzer prize winning author of ÃÛÑ¿´«Ã½ and Gilead, Marilynne Robinson. She is one of outgoing President Obama's favourite writers, and she talked to Robert about making sense of her country in 2017 and how the arrival of President Trump will shape her work. Producer: Maggie Ayre.