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Cat and Edith meet TV judge Rob Rinder who has a lot to say about friendship. ‘Friendship is when something magical, wonderful and joyous happens to you; who’s the first person you can call that you know will be delighted for you in their bones?’ That person is Gudrun Young. Rob and Gudrun met when they were both training to be barristers. Rob bowled up on their first day and visibly upset by her sensible shoes he declared, 'Oh darling, they’re hideous'. Despite first impressions and sore feet from wearing heels, Gudrun fell in love with Rob. They share how their deep bond has been bound by grief of both losing siblings at a young age and how now they now consider themselves family. But like all families, they row. ‘We disagree so vehemently about ideas and politics but there’s never a thing where we would not love one another. We attack each other’s ideas but never each other’. Edith agrees to attend a classical music festival with Rob if she promises to bring him to Glastonbury. He’s particularly interested in the rave tent, but considering he once got lost in someone’s walk-in-wardrobe, it could be bad idea.