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Radio 4,14 Jun 2025,37 mins

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The Shadow Chancellor sets out his vision for a more "thoughtful" politics and faces up to the challenge of winning the argument before the next general election. Sir Mel Stride reveals what he admires about his opposite number, Rachel Reeves, and why a world war two commander is one of his political heroes. He also has a warning about what the British economy would look like under Nigel Farage. Producer: Daniel Kraemer

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