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Betty and Kadeen hold the fort this week after Sasha is called into the England camp as we discuss everyone and every antic on the sidelines. International umpire Gary Burgess joins the pod to help us count to three seconds and also explains his love of Tina Turner and the bleep test. Kadeen tells us about the time Sasha left the bench to go to the toilet, and how do you take on a men's netball team?