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It’s Not Always Black and White Episodes

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    9. Race and Racism Part 1

    Bongi and Matt discuss becoming aware of racism and how it's stuck with them as adults.

  2. 10. Race and Racism Part 2

    Bongi and Matt discuss the use of racist language and how to talk to kids about race.

  3. 3. Fashion and Beauty Part 1

    Bongi and Matt discuss how cultures see beauty differently and why hair can be political.

  4. 2. Cultural Differences Part 2

    Bongi and Matt find out what they love most about each other’s culture.

  5. 1. Cultural Differences Part 1

    Bongi and Matt let you into their marriage and start exploring their cultural differences.

  6. You Can’t Choose Your Family

    Bongi and Matt are back and talk openly about cultural differences between their families

  7. What I Don't Understand About Patriotism

    Bongi and Matt talk more about racism, micro aggressions, unity and English patriotism

  8. Welcome to It’s Not Always Black and White

    Bongi Msimanga and Matt Hodson explore love, race and the grey spaces in between.

  9. Wearing Onesies To Bed

    Bongi and Matt get personal than ever talking about love, sex and relationships.

  10. The Lord Moves In Mysterious Ways

    Bongi and Matt talk about their differing views when it comes to faith and religion.

  11. It's Tough Talking About Emotions

    Bongi opens up about her own mental health and how heart-breaking personal losses hit her

  12. It's Not Always Black & White Is Back

    It's Not Always Black and White returns this January with Bongi Msimanga and Matt Hodson

  13. I Never Thought I’d Shower With A Dog

    Bongi and Matt reveal just how pampered their pug Winston what their families make of it.

  14. Football and Racism Special Part 3

    Bongi and Matt discuss how politics ended up on the pitch at Euro 2020.

  15. Football and Racism Special Part 2

    Bongi and Matt talk about players going from heroes to villains at the sound of a whistle

  16. Football and Racism Special Part 1

    Bongi and Matt discuss racism and football after the abuse aimed at black England players

  17. Finding Your Tribe

    Bongi flies solo to meet a group of black mums to talk about raising kids with your tribe

  18. 8. Sex and Relationships Part 2

    Bongi and Matt get deeper into their own relationship and confess their dating disasters.

  19. 7. Sex and Relationships Part 1

    Bongi and Matt explore sex and how their cultures attitudes help shape their marriage.

  20. 6. Great Britain Part 2

    Bongi and Matt get into British accents and discuss why swearing is just not acceptable

  21. 5. Great Britain Part 1

    Bongi and Matt explore what is great about Great Britain and what isn’t so good.

  22. 4. Fashion and Beauty Part 2

    Bongi and Matt get into fashion disasters and why white men should moisturise.