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Mother and son in union? Well, nearly!
Jenny and Ed Leighton
Jenny and 14-year-old Ed - she's still getting used to the fact he's now taller than her!
Last updated: 18 October 2003 1604 BST
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It's often tough being a teen - but it can be even harder learning to live with one.

Mum Jenny Leighton and 14-year-old son Ed talk about the challenges.

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Mum's eye view - Jenny »Ed's view

What's it like living with a teenager?

It can be quite strange. Suddenly there's this large person walking around. I know I've spent every day with him and he's only grown gradually but it's when you suddenly realise they can reach the top shelf for you - which is quite useful!

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I've got to try and make my mind catch up and try to remember that OK, he might look a lot older but in other ways he's still quite young. I'm quite confused sometimes.quote
Jenny Leighton

And he doesn't look like a little boy any more. And yet I've got to try and make my mind catch up with that and try to remember that OK, he might look a lot older but in other ways he's still quite young.

I'm quite confused sometimes about how to react to him, because I've got to look at him as other people look at him and work out "Who is this person?"

Do you think it's as confusing being the mum of a teenager as being a teen yourself?

Definitely, for mums of teenage boys because you start thinking "I don't know much about boys, girls would be easier" - I don't know that that they would be but you think I could relate more to what girls are feeling like but with boys you don't want to trespass on the privacy that they're starting to ask for and things like that. It's quite hard actually because your whole relationship with them is suddenly different.

Because the boundaries change?

Yes, and perhaps they want to push the boundaries faster than you can cope with and that can cause friction.

I'm trying to acknowledge that those boundaries have got to shift but maybe I'm not ready for all of them to shift as far as he'd want to.

What boundaries does Ed want to shift?

Teenager feeling left our
Jenny worries about Ed getting hurt - emotionally as well as physically

The freedom to come and go from the house I found quite a hard one, for instance if I wasn't at home and to trust him if he wanted to lock up the house and go out with a friend. I felt I needed to be there to make sure he'd gone out safely.

Do you worry about Ed coming to harm when he's out?

Yes, because however much you think it's actually not that dangerous, come on, get real, how often to things go wrong, I don't even want him to be in a situation where he's scared or lost.

We have certain very basic ground rules. I need to know who he's going to be seeing and where he's going to be and he has to be back at a particular time and an absolute rule is that if he's going to be any time after that at all he has to let me know, which he does, after one time when he didn't!

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If I try and explain what I'm feeling that usually helps, even if I say "I know I'm not being totally logical about this but this is how I feel about it" he will respond to that and try to understand me.quote
Jenny Leighton

But I have once or twice been late back when Ed was expecting me and he realised then how worrying it can be.

If I try and explain what I'm feeling that usually helps, even if I say "I know I'm not being totally logical about this but this is how I feel about it" he will respond to that and try to understand me.

What's your view on mobile phones?

I like the way that he can contact me and I can contact him at any time, and I know if he's in trouble, or gets stranded because a bus doesn't run, he can ring me and that's fine.

The other side of the coin is that he can communicate with people and people can communicate with him and I don't know either that it's happening in the first place or what's being said.

When I was a teenager we didn't even have a phone in the house and that is a difference.

Suddenly he's got this private life that I don't want to trespass on - but at the same time I want to know what's going on because there might be something I could or should do to help him or protect him - or just be nosy sometimes!

Do you use texting to stay in touch?

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Do I feel as happy with him going for a walk across the hills with his girlfriend as I would if he were going out with another boy? I was quite surprised that I had to work through that.quote
Jenny Leighton

I'm learning. I'm a bit slow and they laugh at me, but we're getting there.

It is useful because they can do it from anywhere and they can do it unobtrusively, they haven't got to worry about ringing numbers. Overall, I think it's a good thing, so I'm learning.

Are there things you find it difficult to talk about?

Ed has a girlfriend and I like him feeling able to invite his friends into the house - apparently I'm all right as a parent to introduce his friends to!

But I've had to adjust my ideas. Do I feel as happy with him going for a walk across the hills with his girlfriend as I would if he were going out with another boy? I was quite surprised that I had to work through that and we did talk about it because my initial reaction was "I don't know if I really like this" but I couldn't really work out why, so that's a work in progress.

Is part of that because you worry about him being hurt?

Yes, and not particularly physically hurt but emotionally hurt.

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When he was little if he had fights in playgroup or fell out with his best friend at primary school Mum could often sort it out. I can't do that any more because I can't step into his world in the same way.
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Jenny Leighton

When he was little if he had fights in playgroup or fell out with his best friend at primary school Mum could often sort it out by saying "we'll have so and so round to tea".

I can't do that any more because I can't step into his world in the same way - and I'm sure he wouldn't want me to.

I'd like to be there to pick up the pieces but you can't look after them the same way any more.

How do you feel about having another teen-to-be? (Ed's sister Caroline is 10). And what have you learned since Ed became a teenager?

I think there will be a whole new set of issues to look at - perhaps they won't be that different but I've got a feeling they will be.

I've learned about thinking before I speak which we now both try to do, and sometimes just to go with your gut reaction.

Teenage couple
Jenny is coming to terms with Ed having a girlfriend

If I've instinctively felt I don't want him to do that or I don't think that's an appropriate programme for him to stay up late and watch I'm gradually feeling more confident to say that even if he, or Caroline in due course, persuades me that, yes, it's all right, I will be able to say "my opinion is ..." and then try and talk it through. That's the theory, but sometimes it doesn't always work!

If I don't try to compromise and say, "Look, I don't understand where you're coming from but try to explain it to me" how can I expect them to learn to do the same back to me? It's not fair, is it?

I'm still trying to teach them things, I suppose ... we learn from each other.

How has life changed since you were a teenager?

I know I do trot out "I was a teenager once, you can't put anything past me" but it has changed, it really has.

I think teenagers today are expected almost to behave in a certain way and unfortunately some do. Also the way society is set up today very often there isn't the same context for those teenagers.

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It can be good in that teens see their parents as individuals with their own concerns and responsibilities rather than just there to provide food regularly but it does leave teens on their own a lot more.
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Jenny Leighton

When I was growing up there was only one TV in the house, there was no telephone, we didn't even have central heating so you didn't all go off to your separate bits of the house and maybe not see each other for hours and there was family in the locality whereas we've moved away from family so Ed hasn't got so much of a wider context to operate in. That is a difference.

The whole framework of life has changed from what it was a generation ago - my mother didn't go out to work but I work part-time so I have a life outside the home.

The whole structure of how we operate is different - it can be good in that teens see their parents as individuals with their own concerns and responsibilities rather than just there to provide food regularly but it does leave teens on their own a lot more.

So we can't really complain about them wanting to be on their own when we do a lot of encouraging them to be in their room with their TV and their music and their mobile phones.

Is it about finding a balance between encouraging independence and leaving them to fend for themselves?

We have got to encourage them to be independent and make their own choices because if they don't try that out, hopefully in a reasonably secure environment (I know where he is so that's OK) they're not going to get streetwise, they're not going to learn how to cope with things that go wrong, difficulties and so on. But it is hard to let them, saying, OK they are going to have to make mistakes.

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The instinct is always there to organise it so their life is as smooth as possible, even if they might not feel that. quote
Jenny Leighton

The instinct is always there to organise it so their life is as smooth as possible, even if they might not feel that.

For example, if he's forgotten his homework and has to go to a friend's, to take him by car because it'll give him longer to do it - the hard parent, like I sometimes feel I should be, would say "You forgot it, you'll get in trouble tomorrow and we've got other things to do."

So it means striking a balance between playing nice cop and nasty cop?

Yes - I can be nasty cop when I want to be! You fight the battles you want to fight - we don't have many but if you have the basic ground rules everything else comes through negotiation. Ultimately, you sometimes have to say: "You can't go out tonight because you haven't done your homework" - and there's no nice way to put that.

Would you be without your teenager?

No, he's all right! He can be really good company. There aren't as many things we do together as when he was younger - we would watch the same films and television programmes and go out for walks as a family.

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We went out for a walk together in the summer and he wore his personal CD player the whole time. I kept saying 'Switch that off, you can't hear what I'm saying.'quote
Jenny Leighton

That doesn't happen as much now because his interests are different. We went out for a walk together in the summer and he wore his personal CD player the whole time and I kept saying "Switch that off, you can't hear what I'm saying."

I think I'm treating him more as an adult, involving him more in knowing household finances, it's not just "No we can't get a DVD player" I'm explaining why, that there's something else that needs doing because that's part of what he needs to learn.

Again, I hope that if I explain why, rather than just saying 'No' he might not like it but perhaps he will see my point of view.

Teen's eye view - Ed »Mum's view

What's it like being a teenager?

It's good fun, mainly. I'm really enjoying being a teenager with friends but all the school work's a bit of a downside but it has to be done and in theory it's gonna helpus later on.

What's bad about being a teenager?

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Adults have the wrong idea, they think we're all loutish and unruly all the time.
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Ed Leighton

The homework, which we get an awful lot of and also the stereotypes that adults have. They have the wrong idea, they think we're all loutish and unruly all the time.

Most of us aren't and we're getting on with things but it doesn't seem to affect how adults think about us.

What causes most conflict at home?

Time spent out of the house - the licence to go where I like and when I like and having control. I'd like more freedom but I suppose we come to a compromise.

What do you do when you go out?

I play football with friends, go to the cinema or just wander round. Locally I walk or ride my bike, further afield I get the bus - or a lift if I'm lucky or Mum's going that way!

What do you find it difficult to talk about?

Teenager with CD player
Like many teens, Ed is attached to his CD player

Communication could be a lot worse, but there are some areas we could improve on, like talking about responsibilities and what Mum thinks my responsibilities are and what I think they are - sometimes they're not exactly the same!

I mean chores around the house or times I have to be back home and how much practice I have to do on my instruments.

How would you improve communication between you?

Often thinking (before you speak). If there's a problem and you jump straight in quite often you haven't thought it through so it's good to step back and consider what you want to say and what your stance is on whatever the problem is.

But leaving it too long will only antagonise the situation. It's about finding a balance.

Do you still feel treated like a child?

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I think I could be treated more like an adult. I would hope I behave like one but my Mum might disagree.quote
Ed Leighton

I think I could be treated more like an adult. I would hope I behave like one but my Mum might disagree.

Do you ever put yourself in Mum's shoes?

She says "I was a teenager once, too". That's always brought in mid-discussion or argument.

Do you take that on board?

I did more the first couple of times! It may be worth saying just to remind me. What adults say is generally taken on board, even if it doesn't seem like that from the outside.

What have you learned from hearing your Mum's point of view here?

I can see why she does confront me with the problems she has with my plans and I may not agree with her still but I can see why, I can see where she's coming from.

What kind of job do you think your Mum's doing of bringing you up?

On the whole, very good because we do work on communication and try and keep it open. Friction is reduced by that.

What's your message to parents whose children will soon be teenagers?

Overall, strap 'em, because it's not going to be that easy!

Try and give a little as well as sticking to your guns because you do have more experience than us but we have equally strong opinions which need to be taken into account.

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