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Mahmood Patel

Mahmood Patel

Born in Barbados of Indian parents, Mahmood Patel's family ended up settling in Gloucester because his father, who came to the UK first, got on the wrong train.

Mahmood Patel

I arrived with my family in England on Boxing Day, 1961. Partition had taken place in India in 1947 and people in many villages were able to acquire passports to leave India to go to a better life.

At the age of 30, my father had emigrated from India to Barbados in 1949. A lot of migrants were comfortable with the Empire and wanted to move with the British.

Many people from my father's generation went to Africa - either to South Africa or Zambia.

My father wanted to be completely different. So he and my uncle set off from India in 1948 by cargo boat to go to America.

It is interesting that today we are again having to deal with refugees. I can imagine that my father, when he left India and was travelling towards America, would very much have been a refugee and would have had the same kind of psychology.

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My father set off from India looking for the land of milk and honey. By coming to Gloucester and working at Wall's, he'd at least found the milk, if not the honey. quote
Mahmood Patel

People are coming here with dreams of being in the West because it has always been seen as being the Promised Land. Certainly America, which is seen as the land of the free and home of the brave.

However my father never made it that far because he got to Barbados and the island completely won him over. It was green, it was fertile and the people didn't speak Creole or pidgin - they spoke English.

He could speak a little English, so my father was enamoured by the island and it captivated him. He stayed there and a year later called my mother over and started the 'West' part of our family. He had left behind four sons and two daughters when he first emigrated.

In 1951 my brother was born and I was born in 1953, followed by . my younger brothers and sisters.

Towards the end of the 1950s, many colonies were looking for independence and my father became worried because he had seen the trouble in India that independence had brought in 1947.

He thought if we were stuck in Barbados when independence came, there would be problems and he didn't want to be a part of that.

In the meantime, my brothers had themselves left India and by 1960, they were established in England, with their own houses and their wives living in Bradford, Yorkshire.

There was a great temptation for my father to come to England and join the family.

Labour shortage

In addition, after the SS Windrush became the first passenger ship from the West Indies to ferry migrant workers to the British Isles, the British government was now encouraging more people from its colonies to migrate to fill its labour shortage.

My father took the opportunity and arrived in London in 1960. His experiences, I remember, we talked about, were fascinating.

He left an island that was temperate, 70-80 degrees and he arrived here in the winter. It was a complete eye-opening experience for him and he couldn't settle with my brothers.

He found the North very restrictive, very stuffy. He found the hills too much to climb and didn't like the smell of soot and coal. So he travelled down to London because there was an Asian community there.

Wrong train

Legend has it that one day on a train journey from London back to Bradford, he got as far as Birmingham and changed trains. He got on the wrong train, going to Bristol, and he stopped off at Gloucester where he was amazed by the city.

He'd left Bradford which was grimy, sooty and smelly and London, very big, very metropolitan, and he came to Gloucester. The sun was shining, the fields were green and it recaptured for him parts of India.

Because he was lost, he naturally got off the train and went off to look for local Indians. There was a Pakistani restaurant in London Road (I say Pakistani, because Bangladesh didn't come into being until 1972) and he gathered from them that the Wall's factory was opening. Therefore he decided to stay.

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We knew it was cold but not how cold. So in preparation, we had all our blankets made into mohair coats. Leaving Barbados, in 70-80 degrees, I was wearing my pyjamas, then a pair of trousers, then another pair of trousers, then a suit, then on top of that this thick, mohair blanket coat. It was all itchy and very uncomfortable.
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Mahmood Patel

There were some migrant families already in Gloucester by this time. The Kholwadia family came from the same area in India, so it was easy for my father to form a relationship with them.

He first tried to persuade my brothers to come down, but they were too settled. They'd already bought their houses in Bradford and they were used to the system.

So he sent for us and my mother, me, my older brother, younger brother and two sisters came from Barbados. One of the ironies for him, was that being an international traveller and a snob he would look at my brothers coming home in the dark days in Bradford with soot and grime and so on, smelling of diesel.

When he went to Wall's for his interview he could actually smell vanilla. This became his way of selling Gloucester to the community that was going to join him - "Why not come to a place that smells of vanilla and milk?"

Jokes would be made about the people up north washing their hands in oil and people in Gloucester washing their hands in milk.

My father set off from India looking for the land of milk and honey. By coming to Gloucester and working at Wall's, he'd at least found the milk, if not the honey.

I came to Gloucester in 1961. We left Barbados on Christmas Eve 1961 with no idea of what England was like. We had no vision, no concept of what was ahead of us.

Uncomfortable

I remember thinking how they used to tell stories of snow falling from the sky. We'd never seen snow. The nearest thing was ice-blocks, so I had a vision that blocks of ice were falling from the sky when it snowed.

We didn't know how cold it was, we knew it was cold but not how cold. So in preparation, we had all our blankets made into mohair coats. If you can imagine, in 1961 I would have been eight years old.

Leaving Barbados, in 70-80 degrees, I was wearing my pyjamas, then a pair of trousers, then another pair of trousers, then a suit, then on top of that this thick, mohair blanket coat. It was all itchy and very uncomfortable.

We first flew from Barbados to New York. When we landed in the early morning, my memory is of seeing sleet and snow and wind for the first time. I was dying to use the toilet. I can remember being very, very afraid that I might wet myself.

When we finally arrived in England, we didn't know if my dad would be there to pick us up because we'd never been in an airport before. We didn't know what was expected. Immigration then was different to what it is now because there was no immigration policy.

No running water

You basically had to have some proof that you were who you were. We didn't have passports - we had the doctor's vaccination cards to prove that we were who we said we were.

We came out of the airport and were very excited at meeting Dad again. He turned up eventually in an old Bedford van and instead of Gloucester, he took us to Coventry. We spent our first night in England in a house where there was no running water, so any hot water you wanted had to be boiled.

I'd never heard a kettle whistle before. And going to the toilet we had to go outside, to the outhouse. It was all very strange. It was all very exciting.

We soon met the brothers I'd never met before. They wanted to take us to Bradford but Dad had to come back to work at Walls. So we met, said 'hello' and then said 'goodbye'.

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Being born in Barbados, we never spoke Gujarati. English was the first language and it was the Queen's English. It was strange that suddenly Gujerati was the language my parents communicated in, but we couldn't speak it.
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Mahmood Patel

Being born in Barbados, we never spoke Gujerati. English was the first language and it was the Queen's English. It was strange that suddenly Gujerati was the language my parents communicated in, but we couldn't speak it.

There was no way that we could communicate with my brothers and no way they could communicate with us. I remember thinking because we didn't speak Gujerati, they thought less of us because we couldn't speak to them and they didn't want to speak to us in plain English.

I never learned Gujerati properly until my older brother got married in 1971. So from 1963 to 1971, I didn't see myself as Indian or Asian. I saw myself as being completely different. Probably I had more of an affinity with the West Indies than India because that was the background that I understood.

If you can imagine five of us, plus my parents, in one bedroom above a restaurant in London Road. Things were tough for my Mum and Dad because my Mum had expectations of my father, great expectations.

She perhaps saw him as being a family man, and having to be conscious of the family's needs, that perhaps he would get a house. He would get for her in England what she had left behind in Barbados.

My father, on the other hand, because he had become a migrant worker again, didn't see the importance or priority of getting a house. His main priority was to try and earn as much money as he could.

Odyssey

When he left India, he was on some sort of odyssey. He probably made a promise to his mother that if they let him go as an immigrant abroad, he would earn riches and come back to them. They would never have to want for anything for the rest of their lives.

So far, he hadn't achieved that. So in 1961 he was back here again - back at square one, having to start all over again. But he had his faithful Bedford van and Father would look forward to the weekends when was free. Then he would load us in the van, and take us up to Bradford or Batley to help my mum escape.

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He had this habit of being friendly to everybody. If he saw an Indian that he didn't know, he would stop the car and would ask where they were going. They would say: 'Oh, you wouldn't know' and he would say: 'Yes, I'll know. Tell me and I'll take you.' He'd take them wherever they'd wanted to go.
They would say: 'What do I call you?'
He would reply: 'Cha-cha'. Of course, everybody then knew him as 'Cha-cha', which is Uncle. His gravestone is inscribed 'Gloucester Cha-cha'.
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Mahmood Patel on his father

The restaurant was busy on weekends anyway, so the last thing the owner wanted was this great family of children running around. Also by going up to Batley, my mum was meeting her nieces who she hadn't seen for a long time.

They were young girls when she left India and now married and had come to England. Their husbands were in steady employment and had houses. I hated Batley then, because in Batley is the Soot Hill, a tremendous hill that you have to climb. My cousin's toilet was a hundred yards down the road from their typical miner's cottage.

So if you wanted to go the toilet, you had to take the key and walk down the road to whatever number toilet was allocated to your house. The doors on the toilet were flush, so if you went to the toilet at night, you had to either take a candle or a torch.

These memories of the hardship are vivid. You had to be careful, you had to learn this new way of living. But for us as children it was exciting because it was all pioneer stuff. We had nobody to tell us what their experiences were like, so everything became a challenge.

If we wanted toast, we toasted bread on the one bar heater. If you wanted to make tea, you would turn the heater at a 45 degree angle and put the kettle on. You had to be creative.

If there was a draught coming from under the door, then you just put a coat where the draught was coming from. Everything was cold! There was no routine.

Fear within

You were afraid of going out too far, just in case you got lost and you couldn't remember how to come back to where you were staying. It was exciting but there was that fear within.

When we moved in to our new house in Salisbury Road, we didn't have any furniture. We had lino on the floor, we didn't have any carpet. We didn't have any bed to sleep on. We didn't have any chairs to sit on. We also had no heating. So my brothers and myself and my sister, we lifted the lino and took the newspapers from underneath and we burnt them in the grate for warmth.

People that came from abroad had a habit of looking for my Dad. From South Africa, Zambia, or Kenya would come looking for this man. He had this habit of being friendly to everybody.

If he saw an Indian that he didn't know, he would stop the car and would ask where they were going. They would say: 'Oh, you wouldn't know' and he would say: 'Yes, I'll know. Tell me and I'll take you.' He'd take them wherever they'd wanted to go. They'd offer money and he'd say: 'No, I'm not a taxi'. They would say: 'What do I call you?' He would reply: 'Cha-cha'. Of course, everybody then knew him as 'Cha-cha', which is Uncle.

Formal education

Anybody that had a problem and couldn't resolve it themselves would come to him. He developed this status. The family developed a status. His gravestone is inscribed 'Gloucester Cha-cha'.

Families started to grow and he became more and more involved in the community. He tried to organise things but at the same time, we were growing up. The expectation was that we would go through formal education and then find a job.

When it came to the eleven plus, my older brother didn't bother. He'd only been in junior school one year and went to Hatherley Road Boys, which was the closest school.

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At school, all my classmates were white. In my experience at junior school, only one guy ever called me a 'black bastard' and only one chap ever called me a 'nigger'. Anyway my white friend hit him - I didn't have to because my friend felt for me when those words were used. He broke his knuckles! quote
Mahmood Patel

I believe that I may have passed the eleven plus but because my brother filled the form in (my father would delegate form-filling) for the school selection, and because he was already attending Hatherley Road Boys, he put that school down for me.

When I came to Hatherley Road Boys School, in 1965-66, they put me in the 'A' stream. There was another exam, right at the beginning of the school year. I think I came second or third. The deputy headmaster called me in and said: 'Mr Patel, you've done well in this exam, I don't think you should be at this school. You should go on to Central Technical.'

In Gloucester, there was the Grammar, the Technical and the Secondary Modern. I went home very excited because I'd won over something. It was an achievement. However my father said to my mum that I couldn't go to Central unless my brother went as well.

My father met the headmaster who was very good and said that if my bother improved academically, we could both transfer the following year. My brother did and we both got a transfer to Central.

Education was owned by us; the school was owned by us; our school life was owned by us. Our parents had no idea of what we were doing.

There was a school trip to spend a week in London, and you had to pay five pounds. My English teacher paid the five pounds for me so I could go off to London for a week. It was amazing, because here I was with all these big kids in this hotel.

The difficulty I had in explaining to people that I couldn't eat the breakfast that the English kids could have. My mother told me I need to find out how the eggs are fried.

It opened up this dual personality that you develop, where outwardly, you can be part of the environment you are in, but somehow inwardly, there was something that you didn't lose - you didn't compromise your beliefs.

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With my first pay packet, I went into John Collier and ordered myself an Italian suit. That was my style. My mother hated it because I had wasted money. quote
Mahmood Patel

At school, all my classmates were white. In my experience at junior school, only one guy ever called me a 'black bastard' and only one chap ever called me a 'nigger'. Anyway my white friend hit him - I didn't have to because my friend felt for me when those words were used. He broke his knuckles! He broke the other chap's nose in the playground.

At school I became a prefect, and I enjoyed that. It raised my self-esteem and image. I wanted to go to college but my older brother had left school when he was sixteen and went straight into work.

My parents said: 'Go and find a job'. I went up to Fishers of Gloucester as they had a vacancy for a sales assistant. I walked in, they looked at me and they offered me a job. It paid me six pounds a week and I worked nine to five.

With my first pay packet, I went into John Collier and ordered myself an Italian suit. That was my style. My mother hated it because I had wasted money.

After about ten months, my father told me to go to Wall's because that was where my brother was working. His salary had increased to eighteen pounds a week. I went up to the factory in my Italian suit and I filled in a job application in 1969.

They asked me what job I wanted, so asked the girl at personnel what job she thought I was suitable for. She said: 'Dressed like that, you're not going in the factory', and I got a job in administration at Birds Eye Wall's.

Fascination

I never had a problem; people would ask who I was, ask about my faith and I became a fascination for people. People were intrigued by me and I use that even today.

I'm an enigma to people and I enjoy that. I refuse, like Muhammad Ali the boxer, to be put in a particular compartment. People can say: 'He is Indian, these are his traits', or 'He is Afro-Caribbean, these are his traits', or 'He is English, these are his traits'. I don't like that; we are all individuals. We all have our strengths and our needs. It's good to have a good feeling about yourself because at the end of the day, it's that internal person you go back to, not the external person.

Adolescence, youth and puberty I didn't have. I tell my children that there was no concept in those days of being young and youthful and then being adult and mature. You were either mature, that you could handle yourself in a situation or you were not mature and couldn't handle yourself.

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My mother would tell me not to let people see me walking out of pubs, not to let people see me associating with white kids or white girls.
I would say: 'What happens if you needed matches and the only place you could buy matches was in the pub?' It's all about intention. quote
Mahmood Patel

My mother would tell me not to let people see me walking out of pubs, not to let people see me associating with white kids or white girls. I would say: "What happens if you needed matches and the only place you could buy matches was in the pub?"

It's all about intention. If our intentions are right, what does it matter what people see? We know what our intentions are. Everything was a means to an end and the end could be whatever you wanted it to be.

My parents, my father and mother, never said you will have this prescribed way of living, the atomic family concept, there will be two point four children, you will have a washing machine.

There was no order to things: things came as they arrived and things went as they were lost. In this chaos, there was this equilibrium between yourself and the outside world.

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