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Ramjibhi Popat

Ramjibhi Popat

The earliest Hindu Asians in Gloucestershire arrived from elsewhere in England. Ramjibhi Popat was the first to move into the county in 1951.

Ramjibhi Popat

Ramjibhi Popat was born on New Years Day in 1926 in the small village of Dungra in Sarat, Gujarat. He went to a local school to learn Gujarati but at the age of 14 left home and travelled to the city of Bombay where he felt that he could get a better job.

"My parents encouraged me to leave my home village and try to make a life in Bombay because there were far more opportunities there," he recalls.

This took the form of working in an Indian restaurant as a chef, earning around 30 rupees a month.

After two years and at the age of 16, he decided to join the British Army, again to work as a chef.

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The Royal Artillery Army was based in Bombay. I earned 40 rupees working in the Army. When the war finished, the Major asked me if I would like to go to England with him and his family, to work for him.
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Ramjibhi Popat

"I was mainly cooking English food. The Royal Artillery were based in Bombay. I earned 40 rupees working in the Army. When the war finished, the Major asked me if I would like to go to England with him and his family, to work for him.

"I immediately said 'Yes'. I knew that I could probably get a better job, better life and opportunities in England."

They travelled to England in a steamer boat called SS Trackmore. In total it took 15 days to travel from Bombay to England.

"The Major was kind enough to pay for all the expenses. I came alone, although I was married but I decided to leave the family behind.

"We arrived in England on 22nd February 1949 and settled in London for two years. We stayed in a hotel and I worked there as a chef.

Rented accommodation

Then the major found some premises, a farm, in Cirencester. The farm was converted into a hostel for students (mainly from the agricultural college) and I worked there as a cook until he decided to move to Cheltenham in 1956.

It was then that I decided that I no longer wanted to work for the major. So I found a job in Cavendish House working as a chef, mainly cooking English food."

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There was no TV at the time, but I did thankfully have a radio. I used to listen to shortwave for Indian radio programmes. I used to manage to get Indian programmes from Bombay and Delhi which was nice. It reminded me of home.quote
Ramjibhi Popat

At first the major paid him £3 a week. When he started working in Cavendish House he was earning six pounds and 10 shillings a week but he was living in rented accommodation at 7 Hales Road, near Charlton Kings.

This arrangement was in order to save enough money so that his family could come to England.

When his family arrived they eventually bought the Hales Road house. As the first Hindu to arrive in Cheltenham he admits that he did find it difficult to settle down here.

"It was a totally different environment here to what I was used to. However, I do feel that life is much better in England than in India.

"When I first arrived in England I found the weather was very different. It was February, it was snowing and very cold." It was the first time he had seen snow.

Another big adjustment was the lack of a social outlet as even after a few years there were few Asian people in the town.

Only a few Asian people

"I only met a few Asian people, there were not that many. I used to meet them in the street, in passing. I think they were living in Cheltenham.

"There are four particular Asian people (Hindus) who came from Coventry that I remember. Mr Jasubhai J Patel, Mr Chimanbhai L Patel, they both lived in Bath Road at the time, and Mr Diyarbhai N Patel and Mr Diyarbhai D Patel. "Three of them were working in Rotol and one was working in Smiths Industries.

There were maybe one or two other Asian people here (Muslims) and they were probably students.

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There wasn't a great range of food available like it is now but I used to get certain lentils, rice, dry fish and curry powder. I used to mainly purchase these items from the international shop or from Cavendish House.
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Ramjibhi Popat

"There was no TV at the time, but I did thankfully have a radio. I used to listen to shortwave for Indian radio programmes. I used to manage to get Indian programmes from Bombay and Delhi which was nice. It reminded me of home.

"After work and on my days off, I used to go to the cinema in Cheltenham to watch English films. There were no Indian films. I used to go to the pub as well with my friends.

"There wasn't a great range of food available like it is now but I used to get certain lentils, rice, dry fish and curry powder. I used to mainly purchase these items from the international shop or from Cavendish House.

"I couldn't buy any fresh chili and not much fruit either, just bananas. I didn't see any fruit like grapes or pears."

There was also no real place in which he could practice his religion. "There wasn't Hindu temple in Cheltenham where I could go. Instead I used to go to the local church with friends from work. I used to go once a week on Sunday. The people were very nice, very friendly.

No racial comments

"At home I had a few photographs of the Hindu Goddess and that is where I used to pray."

Ramjibhai did not experience any colour prejudice when he came to England. In fact he recalls that he has never experienced any direct racism while he has been living in Cheltenham.

He recalls that he was working with many nationalities in Cavendish House - Polish, Chinese, Spanish, Italian, Russian and German. He says they were really nice people to work with and very friendly.

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When I first came here people did stare at me but I think that type of reaction occurred because people had never seen an Asian person before so I guess it was expected. I have never experienced any racial comments at all.
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Ramjibhi Popat

"When I first came here people did stare at me but I think that type of reaction occurred because people had never seen an Asian person before so I guess it was expected. I have never experienced any racial comments at all."

Unlike many migrants, one barrier he did not face was the language one. "I knew how to speak English because I learnt it in India, so I didn't have any difficulty in speaking to people. I certainly did not have any difficulties when speaking to customers in Cavendish House."

Ramjibhai has been living in his present home in Cheltenham since 1962. He retired from Cavendish House in 1990 after more than 30 years' service.

He has five children: two daughters and three sons - the oldest is 40 and the youngest is 13 years old. All but one was born in England and they all went to school locally - St James' School, then Northern Park School, and one went to Bournside School in Cheltenham.

His eldest daughter went to Gloscat to study catering management and his other daughter works in the B&Q office.

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My children do not know how to speak Gujarati, and slowly we will begin to lose our traditions.quote
Ramjibhi Popat

"I do feel that my children have better future prospects than I ever did. They gained an education, which has meant that they have got good jobs which they enjoy. They are all doing very well.

"I did find it difficult to raise my children. It was financially difficult, buying school uniforms and food but I did manage."

His concern today lies in his fear that the Hindu community is losing touch with its culture.

"'My children do not know how to speak Gujarati, and slowly we will begin to lose our traditions.

"'I do like living in Cheltenham, it is a nice place to live and very nice people. I would like to go back to India now that I am retired but only to visit.

"I don't think I could go back to live there on a permanent basis mainly because my family are here and I would miss them too much."

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